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senators reid and mcconnell talking past each other. sounds like we're not exactly close to a fiscal cliff resolution at this point. >> yeah. what does it all mean for wall street? will it be an ugly day? michael guyette from pension partners and michael farr from farr miller in washington and our very own rick santelli. michael, i'll get to you in a minute. the markets moved up and closed marginally in the red on the news the house will reconvene on sunday night. i get the feeling that all of that back and forth between senators reid and mcconnell, had that come out during market hours, the market would have reacted very differently. so far apart. i didn't hear anything in the way of compromise there. >> even before of the house meeting, marks were down 1.2%. that's noise but not really a panic. the result of the fiscal cliff here is not risk off. it's risk protation into those areas of the investable landscape. look at emerging markets, lock at europe. they are decoupling. if anything, price is still very bull ir. i would rather liste
senators reid and mcconnell talking past each other. sounds like we're not exactly close to a fiscal cliff resolution at this point. >> yeah. what does it all mean for wall street? will it be an ugly day? michael guyette from pension partners and michael farr from farr miller in washington and our very own rick santelli. michael, i'll get to you in a minute. the markets moved up and closed marginally in the red on the news the house will reconvene on sunday night. i get the feeling that...
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the comment from harry reid you referred to. he said it looked like we'd go over the cliff early on, but we've had so many conflicting events. here's mitch mcconnell, here's what he's having to say. >> it's harry reid i'm told. >> as soon as the votes are over and start debating those amendments tonight. we would really like to get as many, much of that debate out of the night tonight as possible so we can start voting at a reasonably early time tomorrow. the debate today has been stimulating and very thorough and good and we hope,ation understand it, there are three amendments we'll vote on tonight. that will still leave senator wyden's amendment that we'll worry about taking care of that tomorrow sometime. madam president, i ask unanimous consent that at 5:30 any remaining debate time on the amendments be yield back and the senate will vote on the penny amendments, that there be two minutes divided equally between all votes and all shall be ten minutes. >> procedural that they are doing right now. gotten indications that maybe
the comment from harry reid you referred to. he said it looked like we'd go over the cliff early on, but we've had so many conflicting events. here's mitch mcconnell, here's what he's having to say. >> it's harry reid i'm told. >> as soon as the votes are over and start debating those amendments tonight. we would really like to get as many, much of that debate out of the night tonight as possible so we can start voting at a reasonably early time tomorrow. the debate today has been...
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harry reiry reid says the u.s. probably going over the fiscal cliff. >> would it be betser for america if we did go over the fiscal cliff? coming up? >> announcer: if congress fails to come to an agreement on the fiscal cliff, the u.s. unemployment rate will top over 9% in 2013. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we haven't had a reported case in 12 years. aids is strong. aids is strong. but we are stronger. and aids... ♪ aids is going to lose. aids is going to lose. ♪ >>> coming up, we'll see how correct or in correct our predictions were for this year. we'll check in on commodities. we've also got
harry reiry reid says the u.s. probably going over the fiscal cliff. >> would it be betser for america if we did go over the fiscal cliff? coming up? >> announcer: if congress fails to come to an agreement on the fiscal cliff, the u.s. unemployment rate will top over 9% in 2013. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello?...
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and these idiots from harry reid to the president on top and john boehner included, i'm equal opportunity, it's horrible. >> we heard the same thing at the end of 2011 europe would spill to theist and the u.s. consumer was changing their habits. i'd like to point out the discretionary consumer is the second best in the market this year, 21%. any whoever made a bet against the u.s. consumer -- >> what kind of pullback are we talking about? if you guys like the market through the early part of 2013 -- >> i don't like it in january, judge, for what i just mentioned because we will see tax laws selling. we have not seen. we have seen gains selling, people taking gains. when they start taking these loss and when all the rest of this stuff kicks in, that's when i worry these guys will make an even worse deal in panic in january. >> let's go to our guests. what is the best way to protect your money with the cliff deadline a few days away, jason pride, director of glenn me. how are you doing? how do you perceive the markets with a couple days of trade iin left? >> i kind of agree with the conster
and these idiots from harry reid to the president on top and john boehner included, i'm equal opportunity, it's horrible. >> we heard the same thing at the end of 2011 europe would spill to theist and the u.s. consumer was changing their habits. i'd like to point out the discretionary consumer is the second best in the market this year, 21%. any whoever made a bet against the u.s. consumer -- >> what kind of pullback are we talking about? if you guys like the market through the...
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thanks a lot, harry reid. with today's losses we have wiped out december's gains on the stock market. today, also by the way, takes the very dubious prize of being the worst day of december for all three averages and the worst day since november the 14th. we are now down on the stock market for the fourth day in a row and the vix, guys, is jumping. let's get straight down to the trading store and find out the buzz. seema modi is manning the nas desk. >> a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff thought it was a certainty at the beginning of the month. today not so much. senator reid's comments and a dismal report triggering a selloff that a lot of pessimists had expected sooner than today because they didn't think the deal on the cliff would be done. the dow dropping below 13,000 for the first time today sings the beginning of this month. now negative as well for the month of december. trading at a three-week low with all 30 of the dow components in negative territory. with the dow below 13,000 the s&p is notching up i
thanks a lot, harry reid. with today's losses we have wiped out december's gains on the stock market. today, also by the way, takes the very dubious prize of being the worst day of december for all three averages and the worst day since november the 14th. we are now down on the stock market for the fourth day in a row and the vix, guys, is jumping. let's get straight down to the trading store and find out the buzz. seema modi is manning the nas desk. >> a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff...
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senator reid has already said hopes of a deal are fading quickly. just two trading days left until the cliff. and it's not just the fiscal cliff. wind farms and dairy are set to get hit. >> the ports of the east coast and gulf coast are bracing for a potential strike. the potential for this, midnight sunday with a shutdown threatening to threaten 20% of the cargo traffic. >> and instagram feeling the sting of the flap around privacy with users, fleeing the site. how will this impact facebook? >> as we mentioned, dennis berman, "wall street journal" market place editor is joining us here on set once again for the next hour. good to have you back, dennis. lots to talk about between the cliff and other news. >> three days before the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff, congressional leaders will meet with the president this afternoon. i remember standing on the white house north lawn last month, after leaders met with the president back then. things looked pretty promising. here's what they said after that meeting. >> i believe that the framework that i've
senator reid has already said hopes of a deal are fading quickly. just two trading days left until the cliff. and it's not just the fiscal cliff. wind farms and dairy are set to get hit. >> the ports of the east coast and gulf coast are bracing for a potential strike. the potential for this, midnight sunday with a shutdown threatening to threaten 20% of the cargo traffic. >> and instagram feeling the sting of the flap around privacy with users, fleeing the site. how will this impact...
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just how much all this would cost going into senator reid's office and then that payment heading over to the republican side. manila envelopes changing hands. so all that is a good sign that there are discussions and progress being made, at least they are talking, don. things could be worse. >> okay. so this may be a little bit redid you know danlt, but i want you to go in specifically for me. president obama says he wants another plan put to a vote if the senate fails to come up with a plan. so what is the president's plan, and will republican leaders let that happen? >> well, okay. so senate majority leader harry reid, a democrat, has crafted an alternative proposal that he has -- saying he will put -- if the negotiations i just described fail and if the senators cannot come to a bipartisan agreement, then the democratic leader is going to put on the floor a democratic proposal that would extend tax rates for households that make $250,000 and less. hatch the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance. so that's a democratic proposal. the problem with that is, you can
just how much all this would cost going into senator reid's office and then that payment heading over to the republican side. manila envelopes changing hands. so all that is a good sign that there are discussions and progress being made, at least they are talking, don. things could be worse. >> okay. so this may be a little bit redid you know danlt, but i want you to go in specifically for me. president obama says he wants another plan put to a vote if the senate fails to come up with a...
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in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison? >> thanks. >>> lawmakers could vote as early as today and when it happens, you can watch live coverage right here on cnn. >>> the president will continue to plead his case for a deal today. he's making his first appearance on a sunday talk show in more than three years. he'll be on nbc's "meet the press." he'll call for an immediately vote for congress on a scale-back plan that would only extend middle class tax breaks if the negotiations fail. >>> other news now, second degree murder as a hate crime. that's the charge facing erica menendez. she is the woman accused of shoving a man to his death
in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison?...
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without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the senate and have failed to act on anything yet. >> will you support whatever short-term deal the republican leadership supports? >> i don't know what i'm going to support yet until i see it. the previous congressman you had on, raul, interesting enough, his office is right next to mine in longworth. the fact of the matter is we're going to have to find a place to come together. that the president has offered a 7% solution for a 100% problem. i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported speaker boehner's plan "b" when that was actually nancy pelosi's solution which was to raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan "b." it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. so congressman, did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership when the new congress convenes?
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reid and mcconnell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker is in a very strong position. and besides, this is a very difficult job. i don't see many republicans standing up and wanting to take speaker boehner on. not many other people could do the job like speaker boehner is. >> i agree. i see you saying that. think about it, he didn't look good when plan b couldn't go to a vote. how can he be strong in
reid and mcconnell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their...
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president. >> we're going to step away from harry reid. you kind of get the gist of what he's saying. he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes without saying, and that the democrats were not happy that maybe a week and a half ago the speaker pulled out of talks with the president after they had reached a pretty good amount of progress. but the fact that he called the speaker a dictator and in the next breath said he's worried about his job, it's a little contradictory, but very personal. let me give you a little bit of a reality check. that is it is true that the house is not in session. they wil
president. >> we're going to step away from harry reid. you kind of get the gist of what he's saying. he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal...
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there's a good relationship between the white house and senator reid. there's been an open line of communication for the last few days, they've been discussing a proposal very much in the works. the issue here, drew, is that so far there's no discussion between senate democrats and senate republicans or the white house and senate republicans or the white house and senate democrats and house republicans and there needs to be agreement because the expectation, if something passes i will say this, if something manages to get through congress, it is going to require democratic and republican votes, so at some point, they all have to be talking and that still isn't happening at this point. >> briannna, thanks. seems like they should go to hawaii, sit on a beach and cool off. i guess you're coming back to d.c., thanks a lot. >> reporter: i am, thanks. >> that's the solution. that's the solution. >> could be. >>> nine minutes after the hour. other top stories we're learning more this morning about that sniper who killed two volunteer firefighters on christmas
there's a good relationship between the white house and senator reid. there's been an open line of communication for the last few days, they've been discussing a proposal very much in the works. the issue here, drew, is that so far there's no discussion between senate democrats and senate republicans or the white house and senate republicans or the white house and senate democrats and house republicans and there needs to be agreement because the expectation, if something passes i will say this,...
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>> well, you just heard from senator reid he's pessimistic. i told you he's probably one of the biggest pes mists on the planet but i think in this particular case he has good reason to be pessimistic. the one thing that i think is important to also note is that what reid is telling people privately, i'm told, is that he doesn't want to bring anything up for a vote unlil he is sure it will pass both houses of congress and one of the reasons for that is a political one. he knows republicans won't want to take a vote to effectively increase taxes for that reason, to say i did it because i want to make sure most americans kept their tax cuts in place but also because of the markets. they really feel here if they take a failed vote and we still go over the fiscal cliff it will make the market reaction even worse than it would be if the fiscal cliff just happens which is not going to be a good scene probably. >> dana, that ing you very much. we'll be back with you in a half hour. >>> the adupgs of a russian child was almost complete. now an america
>> well, you just heard from senator reid he's pessimistic. i told you he's probably one of the biggest pes mists on the planet but i think in this particular case he has good reason to be pessimistic. the one thing that i think is important to also note is that what reid is telling people privately, i'm told, is that he doesn't want to bring anything up for a vote unlil he is sure it will pass both houses of congress and one of the reasons for that is a political one. he knows...
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john boehner shot back saying that reid needs to talk less and legislate more. but really this comes down to working out, cobbling together something that can get support. president obama wants that tax cut threshold to be at $250,000. well, mitch mcconnell poured some cold water on that yesterday. so they need to come to some sort of agreement on where the threshold would be. we don't know what it would be yet in the senate. >> 250,000 for the democratic side and republicans couldn't even agree on a million. that's a $750,000 gap they have to close. let's hope they do that. thank you. >>> commanders in chief past and present paying tribute to retired general norman schwarzkopf this morning. the commander of coalition forces during the gulf war died yesterday at 78. schwarzkopf was the face of military briefings during the first cable news war. former president george h.w. bush who is hospitalized, said the general was a true american patriot, one of the great military leaders of this generation. >>> new york city police are looking for a woman who pushed a man
john boehner shot back saying that reid needs to talk less and legislate more. but really this comes down to working out, cobbling together something that can get support. president obama wants that tax cut threshold to be at $250,000. well, mitch mcconnell poured some cold water on that yesterday. so they need to come to some sort of agreement on where the threshold would be. we don't know what it would be yet in the senate. >> 250,000 for the democratic side and republicans couldn't...
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we've heard harry reid say several times today, we know what this is about. boehner is gone because he's waiting until he he gets re-elected as speaker on the 3rd. but truth tell both of those for me. are those justifiable concerns on either side? >> reporter: yes, they are actually justifiable political concerns on both sides. approximate both of those men are truth telling to a certain extent. not so much about boehner wanting to be re-elected but as we talked about before, the fact that after december 31st, what happens is everybody's taxes go up so house republicans when they take a vote -- if they take a vote after january 1st, that vote will be to cut taxes which is a very different political vote than voting to effectively raise taxes. so the -- harry reid is right about that when it comes to house republicans. and republicans are right that the president doesn't really think that he's going to get much political fault and damage if we go off the fiscal cliff because all the polls show a majority of americans will probably blame republicans for not pas
we've heard harry reid say several times today, we know what this is about. boehner is gone because he's waiting until he he gets re-elected as speaker on the 3rd. but truth tell both of those for me. are those justifiable concerns on either side? >> reporter: yes, they are actually justifiable political concerns on both sides. approximate both of those men are truth telling to a certain extent. not so much about boehner wanting to be re-elected but as we talked about before, the fact...
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president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it
president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m.,...
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harry reid and the senate seem to be the only game in town right now with the senate returning today. we also know from sources, ali, that over this christmas break there were no conversations between the president and top-level republicans. sources from both parties are telling us they are watching the senate, especially the democratic leadership in the senate. we also know yesterday house republicans came out with a statement saying that he will act only after the u.s. senate acts. we're not sure what the senate will do, as you say, we're expecting that smaller deal. what exactly will they vote on? perhaps something that will erase tax hikes for most but not all americans. there could be some money in there for unemployment benefits. they're cobbling all of that together today. all eyes again on the senate, as you say. an let's look at what's going to happen today. 10:00 a.m., that's when the senate comes into session, 10:00 a.m. 11:30 is when president obama returns from hawaii. so we expect many conversations after the president returns. then we have those five days, ali, as you s
harry reid and the senate seem to be the only game in town right now with the senate returning today. we also know from sources, ali, that over this christmas break there were no conversations between the president and top-level republicans. sources from both parties are telling us they are watching the senate, especially the democratic leadership in the senate. we also know yesterday house republicans came out with a statement saying that he will act only after the u.s. senate acts. we're not...
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president obama meets with four congressional leaders, boehner, pelosi, reid, and o'connell. the rhetoric getting more angry and disconnected in final moments. i want to bring in michigan senator debbie stabenow now. thank you so much for being with us. >> sure. >> it really is disconnected. everywhere i go, people ask me a simple question. why can't they get this deal done? harry reid got up and said we're just procedurally not going to get this done in time, it caused people to say why not? this is the most anticipated problem we've ever had. it just -- regular folks folks look at washington and say what is going on. >> ali, i'm here and saying what is going on. there are basically three pieces to solving the deficit, right? one is spending and we have agrowed to $1.6 trillion in spending cuts in the last two years and the other is spending cuts. we put forth spending cuts of over $700 billion. not cutting care to seniors, but cutting overpayments to insurance companies. the burden of the deficit must not just be on the middle class. the wealthy have to kick in. we sent a b
president obama meets with four congressional leaders, boehner, pelosi, reid, and o'connell. the rhetoric getting more angry and disconnected in final moments. i want to bring in michigan senator debbie stabenow now. thank you so much for being with us. >> sure. >> it really is disconnected. everywhere i go, people ask me a simple question. why can't they get this deal done? harry reid got up and said we're just procedurally not going to get this done in time, it caused people to...
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harry reid is there. let's hope that they get there and for the sake of the country for the sake of our stability of our fiscal well, they get together on a plan that works. nobody will get 100% of what they want. hopefully somebody -- we get enough of what we want to keep the wheels turning. >> ana, do you think speaker boehner's leadership is suffering while this crisis continues? >> you know, i think a little bit of both to be honest with you. certainly he tried to get something from his caucus last week. that didn't work. that was not a strong moment for him. it was a moment of weakness. but at the same time, i think he looks like he's really trying. and it also paints the picture and makes it obvious that, you know, he's not just negotiating with president obama. he also has to then come back and sell to his own people, sell to his own caucus, which at points may be even more difficult than negotiating with the white house. so it tells us all just how complex a situation we are dealing with. >> now,
harry reid is there. let's hope that they get there and for the sake of the country for the sake of our stability of our fiscal well, they get together on a plan that works. nobody will get 100% of what they want. hopefully somebody -- we get enough of what we want to keep the wheels turning. >> ana, do you think speaker boehner's leadership is suffering while this crisis continues? >> you know, i think a little bit of both to be honest with you. certainly he tried to get something...
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sources tell us majority leader harry reid will be pushing a scaled back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out last week. it moved the tax hike needle to $400,000 per household. no word yet on when the house might come back with time ticking away. democrats are hoping that a scaled back plan could get through the house, senate and white house before that big ball drops on 2013. that would be sometime on december 30th or even on new years eve. we want to bring in jonathan allen. he's a senior national correspondent for politico. the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's a real reason to change it. in terms of the p
sources tell us majority leader harry reid will be pushing a scaled back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out last week. it moved the tax hike needle to $400,000 per household. no word yet on when the house might come back with time ticking away. democrats are hoping that a scaled back plan could get through the house, senate and white house before that big ball drops on 2013. that would be sometime on december 30th or even on new years eve. we want to bring in...
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harry reid saying the u.s. is going over the cliff. consumer confidence numbers are down. markets are roiled, and it's not surprising people are worried. but now factor in as tim geithner said that the debt ceiling would be reached by the end of the year. $16.4 trillion. extraordinarily measures. now, what does extraordinary measures mean? suzanne, i'll tell you. it means literally robbing peter to pay paul. shifting the money around. so that you can actually keep paying the bills before you hit the ceiling. all in all, i can't remember an end of a year, suzanne, when we've had two so serious issues affecting the u.s. economy all at the same time. >> it is worrisome. i wonder, richard, do we have any sense of how the markets, the global markets, are even reacting to the potential, the possibility that we'd go over the cliff? >> reporter: yes. at the moment, it is quite clear they are holding their nose from the stench of politics, and they are believing that politicians will do the right thing. i was talking to one u.s. congressman today. in fact, you must have talked to s
harry reid saying the u.s. is going over the cliff. consumer confidence numbers are down. markets are roiled, and it's not surprising people are worried. but now factor in as tim geithner said that the debt ceiling would be reached by the end of the year. $16.4 trillion. extraordinarily measures. now, what does extraordinary measures mean? suzanne, i'll tell you. it means literally robbing peter to pay paul. shifting the money around. so that you can actually keep paying the bills before you...
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a democratic source who said right now what they had to figure out, victor, is whether or not harry reid working with the white house on this can get enough votes from republicans to cross party lines for even a scaled back measure, which the president laid out in general on friday, would just be to keep americans' taxes where they are for those making $250,000 or less. and to do a couple of other things, unemployment benefits, maybe, maybe extend the estate tax cut, which is -- which is also going to run out, but, again, they're not even -- the senator won't even consider doing this, i'm told, unless he's sure they'll get through the senate and the house because politically they don't think there is any reason for congress to take votes that are just going to fail. also, they that i it will be bad for the markets, even worse for the markets to have failed votes and then go off the fiscal cliff. >> so the idea that john boehner is even having this conference call, discussing the possibility of bringing the house back into order, is that an indication that he's optimistic that there will
a democratic source who said right now what they had to figure out, victor, is whether or not harry reid working with the white house on this can get enough votes from republicans to cross party lines for even a scaled back measure, which the president laid out in general on friday, would just be to keep americans' taxes where they are for those making $250,000 or less. and to do a couple of other things, unemployment benefits, maybe, maybe extend the estate tax cut, which is -- which is also...
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. >> senator reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up-or-down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends unemployment to the 2 million americans looking for a job and lays groundwork for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face-to-face closed door meeting at the white house today between all the key players, the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary and all four congressional leaders huddled together with just four days to go before we all go overs fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. on a story where every second and every maneuver counts, let's get chief to white house correspondent jessica yellin. jessica, the president says he's modestly optimist being but each also presented a back
. >> senator reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up-or-down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends unemployment to the 2 million americans looking for a job and lays groundwork for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> just moments ago, senator harry...
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. >> just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face-to-face closed door meeting at the white house today between all the key players, the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary and all four congressional leaders huddled together with just four days to go before we all go overs fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. on a story where every second and every maneuver counts, let's get chief to white house correspondent jessica yellin. jessica, the president says he's modestly optimist being but each also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no, they don't, john, because the white house is hopeful that the agreement that the senators are working on can actually move forward after the meeting here. there is a modest uptick in enthusiasm about that possibility. but as forts backup plan, there's no real likelihood that would ever come to a vote because republicans would likely block it in both the senate and might --
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senate majority leader senator harry reid has called on neil abercrombie to quickly appoint a successor before the end of the year. >>> ted kennedy jr., son of the late edward kennedy is considering a run for john kerry's senate seat, according to his brother former congressman patrick kennedy. "boston globe" reports that ted reached out to family members, friends and prominent democrats including john kerry about the possible run. he will likely faceoff against former senator scott brown who lost his seat to elizabeth warren in the november elections. those are your top stories. "reliable sources" at the top of the hour. now back to fareed zakaria "gps." >>> what would you dine a recession the fatd of a million jobs rested with you and just a few of us. nearly four years ago that was the question facing steve rattner a former fund on the newly formed auto task force. early 2009 the dow jones had recently had its largest single day point drop. 2.6 million jobs had been lost and banks and businesses were frequently failing. few companies were as battered as the big three automakers and i
senate majority leader senator harry reid has called on neil abercrombie to quickly appoint a successor before the end of the year. >>> ted kennedy jr., son of the late edward kennedy is considering a run for john kerry's senate seat, according to his brother former congressman patrick kennedy. "boston globe" reports that ted reached out to family members, friends and prominent democrats including john kerry about the possible run. he will likely faceoff against former...
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if i had hair i'd pull it out with yesterday hearing harry reid saying we may not have enough time to get this done. this is the most anticipated thing we have ever seen. we all knew this was coming. the politics, there are real problems here. the bright spots in this economy have been housing and consumer confidence. despite these indicators, the american consumer has stayed steadfast. it started to come apart during the holiday shopping season. it will come out weaker than we expected. we got consumer confidence numbers that are lower than we have seen in the past months. bottom line is everybody is getting spooked by this. that stuff isn't a light switch. once you start losing confidence, once you start losing trust, it's hard to rebuild it. we're an economy on a slow and steady move, not as fast or strong as we'd like it to be. and this nonsense keeps staring back at that. it's going to take many years to improve our economy and get everybody employed and wreck it with the nonsense that continues to go on in washington. very frustrating. >> all right. thank you for that. four days
if i had hair i'd pull it out with yesterday hearing harry reid saying we may not have enough time to get this done. this is the most anticipated thing we have ever seen. we all knew this was coming. the politics, there are real problems here. the bright spots in this economy have been housing and consumer confidence. despite these indicators, the american consumer has stayed steadfast. it started to come apart during the holiday shopping season. it will come out weaker than we expected. we got...
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much to my colleagues here on the committee also, the chairman johnson and chairman brown and senator reid, senator merkley, senator hagan and others who i know share my strong interest in .onsumer protection by al i appreciate step because we work together so well. thank you again, as well. i want to thank our witnesses for your tyler's work in consumer protection. esther chairman, i asked that my full statement be added to the record and i would like to ask a couple of questions. glad to have you here, mr. stone. i am so glad to see that consumer financial protection bureau is working and here. i look forward to your work. i believe it is important to have a complete picture of an individual's financial record, calculating a meaningful credit report. i thought to include a report of remittance, transfers in the dodd-frank provision. the report last year mentioned research that they plan to use the remittance histories to enhance credit scores. can you please discuss any progress being made in those research projects? yes >> , senator, let me thank you for making sure that report requirem
much to my colleagues here on the committee also, the chairman johnson and chairman brown and senator reid, senator merkley, senator hagan and others who i know share my strong interest in .onsumer protection by al i appreciate step because we work together so well. thank you again, as well. i want to thank our witnesses for your tyler's work in consumer protection. esther chairman, i asked that my full statement be added to the record and i would like to ask a couple of questions. glad to have...
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reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote to protect the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as those leaders allow it to come to a vote. if members of the house or senate want to vote no, they can, but we shall let everybody vote. that is the way this is supposed to work. if you can get a majority in the house and in the senate, then we should be able to pass the bill. the american people are watching what we do. their patience is already thin. this is dÉjÀ vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town you cannot get stuff done in an organized timetable. everything always has to wait until the last minute. we are at the last minute. the american people are not going to have any patients f
reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote to protect the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as those leaders allow...
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speaker, leaders reid and mcconnell. today when congress bestows the congressional gold medal on arnold palmer, we will be honoring a living legend. he is an icon of american sports and a success in all of his endeavors. a humanitarian, businessman, philanthropist. he personifies the american dream, the idea that anyone can travel as far as their talent will carry them. we think him for his service in the coast guard, for protecting that american dream for all americans. born to humble beginnings and raised in latrobe, pennsylvania, arnold rose from blue-collar roots to becoming the king, the king of golf. as king of golf, he raised up arnold's army. he always demonstrated etiquette, courtesy and friendship to fans and competitors alike. as arnie's army followed him on the course, he taught everyone about perseverance and discipline. he taught us that you can be six strokes ahead, and still lose. but you can be strikes -- six strokes behind and still win. as he said, he always made a total effort, even when the odds seem
speaker, leaders reid and mcconnell. today when congress bestows the congressional gold medal on arnold palmer, we will be honoring a living legend. he is an icon of american sports and a success in all of his endeavors. a humanitarian, businessman, philanthropist. he personifies the american dream, the idea that anyone can travel as far as their talent will carry them. we think him for his service in the coast guard, for protecting that american dream for all americans. born to humble...
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reid: we have been negotiating now for 36 hours or thereabouts. we did have conversations last night that ended late in the evening between staffs. this morning, we have been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friend's proposal. we have been unable to do that. i have had a number of conversations with the president, and at this stage we're not able to make a counteroffer. the republican leader has told me that -- and he's just said here -- that he's working with the vice president, and he and the vice president, i wish them well. in the meantime, i will continue to try to come up with something, but at this stage, i don't have a counteroffer to make. perhaps as the day wears on, i will be able to. i will say this. i think that the republican leader has shown absolutely good faith. it's just that we are apart on some pretty big issues. the presiding officer: under the previous order, there are now two minutes of debate prior to a vote on the baer nomination. who yields time? the question is on the nomination. is there a sufficient secon
reid: we have been negotiating now for 36 hours or thereabouts. we did have conversations last night that ended late in the evening between staffs. this morning, we have been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friend's proposal. we have been unable to do that. i have had a number of conversations with the president, and at this stage we're not able to make a counteroffer. the republican leader has told me that -- and he's just said here -- that he's working with the vice president,...
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reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent the senate recess subject to call of the chair. the presiding officer: without objection. the senate stands in recess the senate stands in recess >> lawmakers taking a break now that they've completed their legislative work having taken care of two executive nominations. they're heading off to attend party caucus meetings as leaders continue to work on an agreement to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. and c-span's cameras are trained outside those meeting rooms in case lawmakers or staff talk to the press. we're also standing by in the house meeting rooms and the rules committee is poised to consider any agreement. we'll have updates as they become available. and as a reminder, we have a special web page set up with access to video of related briefings and hearings, a twitter feed from reporters and members and our resource area which features documents and articles all available at c-span.org/fiscalcliff. >>> we're going to turn now back to our regular weekend programs here on booktv, and we'll take you back to the senate if and whe
reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent the senate recess subject to call of the chair. the presiding officer: without objection. the senate stands in recess the senate stands in recess >> lawmakers taking a break now that they've completed their legislative work having taken care of two executive nominations. they're heading off to attend party caucus meetings as leaders continue to work on an agreement to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. and c-span's cameras are trained outside...
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decision that i felt was totally wrong, fight-4 and half of the country agree with me but when a senator reid said it's the most remarkable thing about that case is never remarked so it's still very unpopular and very wrong despite that people follow it. no guns, no rights and when i tell the university students to talk about that the same words etc. i say you're thinking too bad there were not some riots. before you think that you turn on your television set and see what happens in countries that solve their problems that way so what i see everyday in the courtroom is people that by and large have somehow, i don't know how, it's partly education, it's partly that they think it's normal. so i can write down my list and i asked my colleagues i said and in this alert the same questions you asked and justice kennedy goes over to china and he understands it pretty well. i said what would you say as to what steps you take so we wrote down eight or nine. but ultimately what you are working towards is a general understanding. i felt my own way of expressing that of with that understanding has to be.
decision that i felt was totally wrong, fight-4 and half of the country agree with me but when a senator reid said it's the most remarkable thing about that case is never remarked so it's still very unpopular and very wrong despite that people follow it. no guns, no rights and when i tell the university students to talk about that the same words etc. i say you're thinking too bad there were not some riots. before you think that you turn on your television set and see what happens in countries...
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the senate majority leader harry reid and john boehner exchange harsh words. the fiscal cliff in just five days and still no deal. the winter storm that slammed the south is now stranding thousands of travelers in the northeast and beyond. that is coming up. >>> and the russian president vladimir putin says he will sign a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith. first from fox at 3:00, back to work in washington, d.c. with less than five days to go before falls right off the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session today and it's the first time the senate or house has met for business between christmas and new year's in more than four decades. president obama cut his hawaii trip short arriving in washington early today. for now, the house of representatives is not in session but we've learned those lawmakers are set to return this weekend. today the senate majority leader, harry reid, says we've just about run out of time. >> if we go
the senate majority leader harry reid and john boehner exchange harsh words. the fiscal cliff in just five days and still no deal. the winter storm that slammed the south is now stranding thousands of travelers in the northeast and beyond. that is coming up. >>> and the russian president vladimir putin says he will sign a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." i'm trace gallagher in for...
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>> it depends really what mcconnell and reid really broker. if it's something that's a good deal that we can move to the new year and start looking at structural entitlement reform, then we'll take it. i completely disagree with alexis, by the way. the president is not showing leadership with this deal. what he's trying to do is push the blame on the house republicans and break them. he's not interested in just winning this issue. he's interested in getting his agenda through which includes more regulation, gun control possibly, and immigration reform. all he wants to do is win the blame game. he's not interested in leadership because if he was interested in leadership, he would have brokered from the beginning in good faith and because he just ignores entitlement reform, he's kidding himself. >> heather: alexis, i'll let you respond to that. because when it comes to spending cuts, president obama says his own, his own words, quote, lays the groundwork for that in the future. the last big budget deal in the summer of 2011, it ended with precis
>> it depends really what mcconnell and reid really broker. if it's something that's a good deal that we can move to the new year and start looking at structural entitlement reform, then we'll take it. i completely disagree with alexis, by the way. the president is not showing leadership with this deal. what he's trying to do is push the blame on the house republicans and break them. he's not interested in just winning this issue. he's interested in getting his agenda through which...
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. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> harris: tonight, that is exactly where we stand. at the edge of a cliff throwing blame for how you we got here. a lot of finger pointing and no answers as i said and just days remaining until tax increases and spending cuts all kick in and we all feel the pain. mike emanuel live with the news for us tonight on capitol hill. top democrats seem to be suggesting they cannot cut a deal without republican help. >> well, harris, that is right. and so they are asking what it will take to at least get some republican support. they say time is so critical. they cannot just roll out new legislation only to have the republicans reject it. we know president obama called the top four congressional leaders last night on his way back from hawaii. tomorrow
. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> harris: tonight, that is exactly where we stand. at the edge of a cliff throwing blame for how you we got here. a lot...
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majority leader harry reid recognizes this is a critical time. we have a lot meeting in the white house very con struck stif. we hope that it will bear fruit. we hope the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> in order to make that happen, the senate will not be in session tomorrow, harris. >> do they generally agree with the democratic perspective here on whether or not this can get done? >> harris, republicans say it was a good meeting at the white house. we're told there was a discussion of potential options and components of a plan that could pass both the house and senate. here's the top senate republicans take. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. so we'll be working hard it to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. >> that's sets up a critical day on sunday when house republicans and their colleagues the democrats return an
majority leader harry reid recognizes this is a critical time. we have a lot meeting in the white house very con struck stif. we hope that it will bear fruit. we hope the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> in order to make that happen, the senate will not be in session tomorrow, harris. >> do they generally agree with the democratic perspective here on whether or not this can get done? >> harris, republicans say it was a good meeting...
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senator harry reid has not passed budgets. president obama's budgets have been voted on 3 times, the final vote tally, 0-610. so getting back to your first question, have i seen a plan out of this president that would be an obvious yes from us? i haven't seen any specific plan. all i have seen is demagoguery and a few numbers thrown out, whether it's $800 billion over 10 years or $1 of revenue for $3 of spending cuts, but nothing specific that we need to see to hammer this thing out. >> he says the onus is on congress, this is your job to get done. he said in the clip we just had, if it doesn't get done, the people who are going to pay are the senior who is will lose out on benefits that they are enjoying. is that an accurate representation of what will happen? >> no! this country needs presidential leadership. the house has passed two budgets that would spend $7 trillion less than what president obama's budgets were proposed at. again, remember president obama's budgets didn't get a vote from a member of his own party. we do
senator harry reid has not passed budgets. president obama's budgets have been voted on 3 times, the final vote tally, 0-610. so getting back to your first question, have i seen a plan out of this president that would be an obvious yes from us? i haven't seen any specific plan. all i have seen is demagoguery and a few numbers thrown out, whether it's $800 billion over 10 years or $1 of revenue for $3 of spending cuts, but nothing specific that we need to see to hammer this thing out. >>...
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harry reid has been making a speech moments ago and telling a where senator bob dole like senator inouye, they recuperated in michigan and later served in the senate together, bob dole walked up to the casket and lifted his left hand, his right hand was badly damage and saluted. a poignant moment. president obama at the washington cathedral, it was his really earliest political inspiration. both the president and senate majority leader reflecting on daniel inouye both a long time legislator but two days they will be getting back to work on the fiscal cliff. >> heather: the difficult job of reporting from hawaii, thank you so much, ed. >> gregg: the mother of john hammer telling her son is now in a louisiana hospital. he was released from a mexican prison last week after months behind bars. mexican authorities arrested him after he carried an antique shotgun into their country, even though he says he legally declared the weapon and had a permit for it. today his dad reportedly brought him to the emergency room during their drive back together to florida. his family reported he had a stoma
harry reid has been making a speech moments ago and telling a where senator bob dole like senator inouye, they recuperated in michigan and later served in the senate together, bob dole walked up to the casket and lifted his left hand, his right hand was badly damage and saluted. a poignant moment. president obama at the washington cathedral, it was his really earliest political inspiration. both the president and senate majority leader reflecting on daniel inouye both a long time legislator but...
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we just heard from the top senate democrat harley reid respondinharry reid responding to the statement. here is what he said. >> this happy talk that this republican house leadership said yesterday, let him take our bill. mr. president that bill was brought up and defeated. i refeet the american peopl repeat the american people do not agree with the republicans in the house and the republicans over here. >> reporter: the senate is back in session today, the house is not. patti ann: molly henneberg live ph washington, thank you. gregg: as washington debates the fiscal cliff we are also days away from another financial crisis. the u.s. government is poised to hit its debt limit on monday. what happens if congress doesn't raise the debt sealing? douglas holtz ee eakin is a former director of the nonpartisan budget direction office and is president of american action firearm. thapblgs for being with us. what happens if they don't raise the ceiling? >> ultimately congress has to raise the ceiling. it's simply naive to believe you could ever put the level of spending kick quickly become to t
we just heard from the top senate democrat harley reid respondinharry reid responding to the statement. here is what he said. >> this happy talk that this republican house leadership said yesterday, let him take our bill. mr. president that bill was brought up and defeated. i refeet the american peopl repeat the american people do not agree with the republicans in the house and the republicans over here. >> reporter: the senate is back in session today, the house is not. patti ann:...
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that would be senate majority leader harry reid. seemed kind of irritated that house republicans and all house members are not here in washington trying to work out a deal on the fiscal cliff. here is more from leader reid a short time ago. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 8 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences. >> reporter: of course president obama has left hawaii. he is heading back to washington from his family vacation. we learned from the white house that the president had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the
that would be senate majority leader harry reid. seemed kind of irritated that house republicans and all house members are not here in washington trying to work out a deal on the fiscal cliff. here is more from leader reid a short time ago. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give...
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after hearing senator reid yesterday, senator mcconnell fired back. take a listen. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here and i said, this is a conversation we should had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: now senator mcconnell also said he was disappointed because when he got a call from the president two nights ago right before the president left hawaii to come back here to the white house, senator mcconnell says that was the first time he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections might be appropriate here because som
after hearing senator reid yesterday, senator mcconnell fired back. take a listen. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here and i said, this is a conversation we should had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: now senator mcconnell also said he was disappointed because when he got a call from the president two nights ago right before the...
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senator harry reid as you say was very rough going directly after boehner yesterday. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: the word dictatorship not sitting well at speaker's office of the as you can imagine his spokesman putting out a tough statement of his own saying quote, senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. senate democrats have not. there you go. the senators saying the house to act. the speaker's office saying senate has to act. there is pressure building on the president to bring both house, and senate, democratic leaders all four leaders into the white house today to bring leadership down, time is running it. let's come together. gregg: adds all new meaning to the word elementary school. ed henry, thanks very much. we're
senator harry reid as you say was very rough going directly after boehner yesterday. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: the word dictatorship not sitting well at speaker's office of the as you can imagine his spokesman...
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senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff and senate democrats have not. now they are coming into the meeting and there is already acrimoney instead of reconciliation. >> part of the problem, i am sorry, the house passed two spending bills and ideas to meet the fiscal cliff and cent -- subject it to the senate. they have two over there . john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the republicans on this? they should have stayed firm on the ryan plan. it was the best . back track a year ago. this stems from the failure of the super committee that stemmed from the simpson-bowles commission failing. simpson-bowles. they got together and made the recommendation to president obama who commissioned that study can. >> kelly: and yet rejected it. >> that fail would and went to the super committee. they need to get together. >> julia: if you watched fox news channel yesterday. there is a map with red dots and that is the newspaper and the lo
senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff and senate democrats have not. now they are coming into the meeting and there is already acrimoney instead of reconciliation. >> part of the problem, i am sorry, the house passed two spending bills and ideas to meet the fiscal cliff and cent -- subject it to the senate. they have two over there . john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the...
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i think the senate -- senator reid is amazing at gettin' republican votes on things when he needs to get it. this is one of the times where he'll need to get it because speaker boehner will not be able to pass anything with the majority of his caucus as proved last week. i think there will be enough pressure not to be the one going over the cliff. 'cause if they waiting to over the cliff, there will be more democratic votes in the senate, more democratic votes in the house. and they could quickly get to fixing the tax problem a day or two after the new congress is sworn in on thursday the 3rd. >> arthel: as michael alluded to, the wheeling and dealing, we know it's going on on both sides of the aisle, burr there is also that intraparty negotiations that's happening. so what would you see are the deal breakers inside the democratic party as well as inside the gop party? >> listen, i really think that they should look at this and look at the fact that when you raise taxes, people have less money to spend. you're harming the middle class, the class that obama is claiming that he wants t
i think the senate -- senator reid is amazing at gettin' republican votes on things when he needs to get it. this is one of the times where he'll need to get it because speaker boehner will not be able to pass anything with the majority of his caucus as proved last week. i think there will be enough pressure not to be the one going over the cliff. 'cause if they waiting to over the cliff, there will be more democratic votes in the senate, more democratic votes in the house. and they could...
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now we're talking about reid and mcconnell and the senate. has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last couple of years. on the other hand, when reid and mcdonnell, the two senate leaders get into a room together, they somehow seem to be able to find an accommodation. i think there's much more for compromise with the senate leaders. let them make a deal, i'm sure reid is talking to the president and conversely, mcconnell is talking to boehner what they can go for, but probably to have the actual deal making going on between the two senate leaders. >> dave: chris, i want to say farewell, last time i'll chat
now we're talking about reid and mcconnell and the senate. has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and...
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>> i think harry reid will do a stopgap deal, and we'll be back at the drawing board. gregg: tony 134. >> that's what's going to happen at best, and it's not going to solve the problem. we need the grand bargain, we really do. gregg: good to see you both. >> good to be here. >> thanks so much, gregg. heather: coming up, a potentially major strike threatening the u.s. economy from coast to coast as business leaders ask where is president obama? with poor workers on the brink of a walkout that could cost billions. gregg: and we are learning more about the man who killed two firefighters, upstate new york. we're going to talk with a clinical psychologist about how a man like this could slip through the cracks, a man who claimed in his farewell note that killing people was what he liked to do. >>> and an officer wiewbded in the shooting -- wound withed in the shooting speaking out just moments ago for first time. >> for some reason some person decides that he can do whatever he wants. no one ever expected that, i never expected that. these are things that no one ever expec
>> i think harry reid will do a stopgap deal, and we'll be back at the drawing board. gregg: tony 134. >> that's what's going to happen at best, and it's not going to solve the problem. we need the grand bargain, we really do. gregg: good to see you both. >> good to be here. >> thanks so much, gregg. heather: coming up, a potentially major strike threatening the u.s. economy from coast to coast as business leaders ask where is president obama? with poor workers on the...
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you are asking the wrong person let's hear what senator harry reid have to say on that. he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all know waiting for us. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. but that's where we're. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and the country waiting for us to make a decision. >> juliet: charles krauthammer made a great point the other day. ultimately the way the president is going to be judged isn't going to be what happens in the next couple of
you are asking the wrong person let's hear what senator harry reid have to say on that. he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all...
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what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat and republican in the senate are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and do extend unemployment benefits also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that go into effect but don't expect a deal on that. now, dan, if a deal can be reached today, the senate would begin looking at it, begin debating it and then you would see vote tomorrow in the senate and possibly a vote tomorrow in the house because as you know, if we get to tuesday without any of this happening, off the cliff. >> and, jon, you say off the cliff by tuesday, just two days left, how damaging would it be if we do indeed go off the cliff even if we bungee up a few days or weeks after. >> the impact on everybody's taxes
what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat and republican in the senate are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and do extend unemployment benefits also they're talking...